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		<title>By: ali</title>
		<link>http://www.blackbagops.net/2006/08/08/vonage-is-a-rip-off/comment-page-1/#comment-1519</link>
		<dc:creator>ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 22:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As many of us were seduced by the lure of cheaper prices, so was I. The problem was that with the cheaper prices, so came the cheaper service. I own a small business and rely heavily on my phone and fax service to be up to par. Boy was I mistaken. The system is unreliable. To make a call was fine, but half of the time the reciever of the call couldnt hear me. The faxing was just pathetic. I would have to resend my fax five or six times in order for the reciever to get it. The service depatment is a joke. I am not a person who is closed minded by any means but when I have a problem with a system I just feel a little more reasured by talking with someone who is in the same country. Of all the times I have had to call I have talked to one who spoke english, although in Canada, and another in New Jersey.  I am switching back to the regular land line as of next week and am looking forward to sound service. Just a note to people looking for a cheaper service, alot of the phone companies now in order to compete have lowered there prices. Just remember from my mistake &quot;you pay for what you get&quot;. You want ultra cheap, your gonna get ultra cheap service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As many of us were seduced by the lure of cheaper prices, so was I. The problem was that with the cheaper prices, so came the cheaper service. I own a small business and rely heavily on my phone and fax service to be up to par. Boy was I mistaken. The system is unreliable. To make a call was fine, but half of the time the reciever of the call couldnt hear me. The faxing was just pathetic. I would have to resend my fax five or six times in order for the reciever to get it. The service depatment is a joke. I am not a person who is closed minded by any means but when I have a problem with a system I just feel a little more reasured by talking with someone who is in the same country. Of all the times I have had to call I have talked to one who spoke english, although in Canada, and another in New Jersey.  I am switching back to the regular land line as of next week and am looking forward to sound service. Just a note to people looking for a cheaper service, alot of the phone companies now in order to compete have lowered there prices. Just remember from my mistake &#8220;you pay for what you get&#8221;. You want ultra cheap, your gonna get ultra cheap service.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://www.blackbagops.net/2006/08/08/vonage-is-a-rip-off/comment-page-1/#comment-234</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 16:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the heads up.
The general rating on Vonage tells a story but the preponderance of anonymous bothers me.
Reviews like yours make me feel better.
I canceled my telco service, &quot;BRI for over $90.00 a mo&quot; today.
I got the BRI in 1887 and it worked perfectly for over four years with only seven trouble tickets. Yes I have records that far back.
Then it went down hill every year since.
This year it&#039;s been down about 60% of the time with them all blaming my equipment.
As I use these &quot;router hubs&quot; in business I have many of them. I have not had but one failure in about seven years.
I at this point have seven of them at my location and they still say it is my equipment.
Today I called them to cancel my service and went looking at Vonage.
Thanks for the heads up! 
I&#039;ll look else where.
Within several days, a week at most I will have a T-1 here via microwave.
Yes I do industrial Microwave work.
No the T-1 will not be from SWBC which has gone down hill, &quot;WAY DOWN HILL!&quot; We are attempting to emulate third world as fast as possible.
I thought Sprint had the worst Customer Service in the US but I think they and Sprint have joined up with a contract company as they are about equal.
USELESS!

I don&#039;t care about the number, I do care about talking to someone in India.
I will never buy from a technical company that uses India or outsources to another country purposely.
Example Dell Computer&#039;s.

Thanks for an honest review amongst the anonymous cop outs.

Pete G.
Pearland, TX</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the heads up.<br />
The general rating on Vonage tells a story but the preponderance of anonymous bothers me.<br />
Reviews like yours make me feel better.<br />
I canceled my telco service, &#8220;BRI for over $90.00 a mo&#8221; today.<br />
I got the BRI in 1887 and it worked perfectly for over four years with only seven trouble tickets. Yes I have records that far back.<br />
Then it went down hill every year since.<br />
This year it&#8217;s been down about 60% of the time with them all blaming my equipment.<br />
As I use these &#8220;router hubs&#8221; in business I have many of them. I have not had but one failure in about seven years.<br />
I at this point have seven of them at my location and they still say it is my equipment.<br />
Today I called them to cancel my service and went looking at Vonage.<br />
Thanks for the heads up!<br />
I&#8217;ll look else where.<br />
Within several days, a week at most I will have a T-1 here via microwave.<br />
Yes I do industrial Microwave work.<br />
No the T-1 will not be from SWBC which has gone down hill, &#8220;WAY DOWN HILL!&#8221; We are attempting to emulate third world as fast as possible.<br />
I thought Sprint had the worst Customer Service in the US but I think they and Sprint have joined up with a contract company as they are about equal.<br />
USELESS!</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care about the number, I do care about talking to someone in India.<br />
I will never buy from a technical company that uses India or outsources to another country purposely.<br />
Example Dell Computer&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Thanks for an honest review amongst the anonymous cop outs.</p>
<p>Pete G.<br />
Pearland, TX</p>
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		<title>By: todd</title>
		<link>http://www.blackbagops.net/2006/08/08/vonage-is-a-rip-off/comment-page-1/#comment-152</link>
		<dc:creator>todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Aug 2006 04:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lie?  When the router failed I called Vonage, got a person (not easy), said the router isn&#039;t working anymore, I don&#039;t want to be dependent on electric co for my phone, I want to cancel my number transfer.  Vonage person said: don&#039;t disconnect right now or you&#039;ll lose your number.  They also didn&#039;t quite know how to send the number back to Qwest - took many phone calls to both companies to work this out.

But I&#039;m explaining this to a troll that can&#039;t understand that many details and unfruitful phone calls were omitted in the interest of bandwidth.

Go back under your bridge</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lie?  When the router failed I called Vonage, got a person (not easy), said the router isn&#8217;t working anymore, I don&#8217;t want to be dependent on electric co for my phone, I want to cancel my number transfer.  Vonage person said: don&#8217;t disconnect right now or you&#8217;ll lose your number.  They also didn&#8217;t quite know how to send the number back to Qwest &#8211; took many phone calls to both companies to work this out.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m explaining this to a troll that can&#8217;t understand that many details and unfruitful phone calls were omitted in the interest of bandwidth.</p>
<p>Go back under your bridge</p>
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		<title>By: Franklin</title>
		<link>http://www.blackbagops.net/2006/08/08/vonage-is-a-rip-off/comment-page-1/#comment-151</link>
		<dc:creator>Franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 23:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really?  According to your own post here...

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16670576

you state &quot;3) Because it takes 40+ days to move a number in and then back, their &quot;RISK FREE TRIAL&quot; is insincere - the only reason I delayed completing the disconnect order was to allow time for QWEST to recapture the number.&quot;

You delayed, you lose.  You also lie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really?  According to your own post here&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16670576" rel="nofollow">http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16670576</a></p>
<p>you state &#8220;3) Because it takes 40+ days to move a number in and then back, their &#8220;RISK FREE TRIAL&#8221; is insincere &#8211; the only reason I delayed completing the disconnect order was to allow time for QWEST to recapture the number.&#8221;</p>
<p>You delayed, you lose.  You also lie.</p>
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		<title>By: todd</title>
		<link>http://www.blackbagops.net/2006/08/08/vonage-is-a-rip-off/comment-page-1/#comment-150</link>
		<dc:creator>todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 22:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for visiting Franklin the Vonage Shill.

Please be aware that I expressed my desire to cancel service well within the trial period, however the mechanics of actually completing the disconnect actually take longer than the &#039;trial&#039; period itself.  

Perhaps Franklin is the alter ego of the customer service rep who felt compelled to add &quot;Have a nice day&quot; as a parting shot to our increasingly uncordial exchange.  

Certainly, Vonage&#039;s customer service reps clearly view their customers as clowns.  The victims, however, are not laughing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for visiting Franklin the Vonage Shill.</p>
<p>Please be aware that I expressed my desire to cancel service well within the trial period, however the mechanics of actually completing the disconnect actually take longer than the &#8216;trial&#8217; period itself.  </p>
<p>Perhaps Franklin is the alter ego of the customer service rep who felt compelled to add &#8220;Have a nice day&#8221; as a parting shot to our increasingly uncordial exchange.  </p>
<p>Certainly, Vonage&#8217;s customer service reps clearly view their customers as clowns.  The victims, however, are not laughing.</p>
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		<title>By: Franklin</title>
		<link>http://www.blackbagops.net/2006/08/08/vonage-is-a-rip-off/comment-page-1/#comment-149</link>
		<dc:creator>Franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 18:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chargeback?  Hardly, you went beyond the trial period and agreed to the TOS.  Yur loss, clown.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chargeback?  Hardly, you went beyond the trial period and agreed to the TOS.  Yur loss, clown.</p>
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		<title>By: squish</title>
		<link>http://www.blackbagops.net/2006/08/08/vonage-is-a-rip-off/comment-page-1/#comment-148</link>
		<dc:creator>squish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 05:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow, that really sucks. I think I&#039;ll stick with my cell phone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, that really sucks. I think I&#8217;ll stick with my cell phone.</p>
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