Comments on: At the Dynamic Languages Symposium http://www.blackbagops.net/2006/10/23/at-the-dynamic-languages-symposium/ Weapons and Intelligence in the War Against "Them" Fri, 22 Dec 2006 11:38:23 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: todd http://www.blackbagops.net/2006/10/23/at-the-dynamic-languages-symposium/comment-page-1/#comment-1878 todd Thu, 09 Nov 2006 01:06:13 +0000 http://www.blackbagops.net/?p=80#comment-1878 Or I had to take an important phone call and came back into the talk late. Thanks for giving me the benefit of the doubt though. Still, it looks like you're retracing the path of Squeak. So what's truly new about it? I think it is a good exercise to write the entire system in itself - this is where Smalltalk gets much of its power. Hopefully, Python will benefit similarly. But I'm still more interested in seeing how it would work out if you started with the COLA environment. I've already seen what can be done with the Squeak/Slang Python/RPython approach. Or I had to take an important phone call and came back into the talk late. Thanks for giving me the benefit of the doubt though.

Still, it looks like you’re retracing the path of Squeak. So what’s truly new about it?

I think it is a good exercise to write the entire system in itself – this is where Smalltalk gets much of its power. Hopefully, Python will benefit similarly. But I’m still more interested in seeing how it would work out if you started with the COLA environment. I’ve already seen what can be done with the Squeak/Slang Python/RPython approach.

]]> By: Jacob Hallén http://www.blackbagops.net/2006/10/23/at-the-dynamic-languages-symposium/comment-page-1/#comment-1876 Jacob Hallén Wed, 08 Nov 2006 23:50:55 +0000 http://www.blackbagops.net/?p=80#comment-1876 Yawn. PyPy is not about generating code for different backends. The interesting parts are in the JIT generation, the handling of parallellism, the flexibility and plugability of the implementation. This was in the talk, but either it went over your head, or you had already filed PyPy as uninteresting and just ignored it. Yawn. PyPy is not about generating code for different backends.
The interesting parts are in the JIT generation, the handling of
parallellism, the flexibility and plugability of the implementation.

This was in the talk, but either it went over your head, or you
had already filed PyPy as uninteresting and just ignored it.

]]> By: todd http://www.blackbagops.net/2006/10/23/at-the-dynamic-languages-symposium/comment-page-1/#comment-1864 todd Wed, 08 Nov 2006 20:58:18 +0000 http://www.blackbagops.net/?p=80#comment-1864 Adding more backend targets doesn't seem like progress. Squeak already runs everywhere. I'd be more interested to see what a python on COLA implementation looks like. It might be the shorter path. Adding more backend targets doesn’t seem like progress. Squeak already runs everywhere.

I’d be more interested to see what a python on COLA implementation looks like. It might be the shorter path.

]]> By: Christopher Armstrong http://www.blackbagops.net/2006/10/23/at-the-dynamic-languages-symposium/comment-page-1/#comment-1848 Christopher Armstrong Wed, 08 Nov 2006 16:52:36 +0000 http://www.blackbagops.net/?p=80#comment-1848 It would be rather impressive if Squeak had a .NET code generator ten years ago. It would be rather impressive if Squeak had a .NET code generator ten years ago.

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